Practical guidance for OEM quality engineers dealing with weak supplier 8D responses. How to shift from checkbox compliance to genuine problem resolution.
You receive a supplier 8D. The root cause says "operator error" and the corrective action says "retraining." You know this will not prevent the next failure. The supplier knows it too. But the form is filled, the box is checked, and nothing changes. According to VDA QMC field studies, over 60% of initial 8D submissions lack verifiable root cause evidence.
| D2 Problem | "Part did not meet spec" | "Dimension X was 0.3mm over tolerance on lot 2024-47, affecting 2,400 pieces" |
| D4 Root cause | "Operator error" | "Tool wear pattern shows degradation after 8,000 cycles vs. 12,000 PM interval" |
| D5 Actions | "Retrain operator" | "Reduce PM interval to 7,500 cycles, add SPC checkpoint at dimension X" |
| D6 Verification | "Will monitor" | "CPK improved from 0.8 to 1.67 over 5,000 pieces since implementation" |
| First-time weak response | Unfamiliar with your expectations | Provide clear feedback and examples |
| Repeated generic root causes | Capability gap or resource constraint | Offer training or joint problem-solving session |
| Defensiveness when questioned | Fear of consequences or past negative experience | Reset the relationship expectations |
| Refusal to provide data | Intentional hiding or systemic problem | Escalate to commercial discussion |
| Pattern across multiple issues | Cultural or systemic problem | Supplier development program or exit planning |
Closing an issue to clear a metric creates false confidence and repeat failures.
When suppliers who share bad news face worse consequences than those who hide it, hiding becomes rational.
Complex problems discussed through email often escalate into conflict.
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